AMD Bulldozer

[La.Prestige]

Koliko vidim, za njega nema cena. Ali gledajući sad ove, on bi trebao biti negde oko $150. Za performanse neću ništa da pričam, ali zaista očekujem mnogo. Od FX 4xxx tražim da bude na nivou i5 2500k.

[Picard]

Nisi baš ispratio šta se priča o BD ... FX6 može da bude tu negde na nivou i5-2500K.

[neddd]

Ma samo da izadju vise konacno,a prica je da ce izaci sad oktobra.Pa ce lepo da se vidi kolko je zaista BD jak i da li za tu cenu po kojoj ce se naplacivati nudi adekvatne performanse,a cena bi trebale jos da padnu.

[Mocko]

Prilicno niska cijena za procesor sa 8 jezgara, sumnjivo mi je to, pri tome ne mislim na cijenu nego na procesor

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Nema on baš 8 jezgara, već 4 modula, a svaki modul bi otprilike mogao da računaš kao 1.8 jezgra, a ne 2 ...
Jedino što je bitno kako će se pokazati u realnom radu za svoju cenu a da li ima 2-4-8-16 jezgara, to je manje važno.

[Morandi]

Picard kaže:

Nema on baš 8 jezgara, već 4 modula, a svaki modul bi otprilike mogao da računaš kao 1.8 jezgra, a ne 2 ...
Jedino što je bitno kako će se pokazati u realnom radu za svoju cenu a da li ima 2-4-8-16 jezgara, to je manje važno.

To sam i ja hteo da kazem. A masa ljudi se lozi na broj jezgara.
Citam na bench-u ima likova koji planiraju da menjaju i7 2600 za amd fx8 gluposti

[Mocko]

Kupis FX8 i mjenjas se sa njima za proc

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FX8@8.43GHz:

http://lab501.ro/stiri/amd-bulldozer-atinge-8-43-ghz

[HSVstoned]

A na ovom kloku je slabiji od i7 2600k na default

Nisam AMD hejter ali citam da amd na ovaj nacin pokusava da se izvadi.. da ce BD ici na visoke klokove a opet biti slabiji od sb.. sto znaci da ce Intel moci da radi sta hoce.

[Beagle]

HSVstoned kaže:

Nisam AMD hejter ali citam da amd na ovaj nacin pokusava da se izvadi.. da ce BD ici na visoke klokove a opet biti slabiji od sb.. sto znaci da ce Intel moci da radi sta hoce.

Papir trpi sve...

Nikako ljudi da shvate da je Bulldozer high-freqency dizajn (kao sto je to bila i nesrecna NetBurst arhitektura), i da perfomanse nikako nisu jednake megahercima (kao sto je to K7 i K8 arhitekura svojevremeno demonstrirala nad NorthWood i Prescott procesorima).

[Picard]

Now there are things I can't talk about yet but I can say I think they have a winner here.
I saw the benches...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post4949106

Videćemo ...

Priča se da će FX-8150 koštati oko 200e u Nemačkoj.

[Mocko]

neddd kaže:

http://www.nordichardware.com/news/6...rom-intel.html

Ako je to tacno onda ova vijest ima itekako smsila....

[neddd]

Malo opsirnije o novo rekordu....http://www.nordichardware.com/news/7...ulldozerq.html


Razgovor sa jednim od overklokera....http://www.nordichardware.com/news/7...he-new-wr.html

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The first benchmark pegged a AMD FX 8-core CPU against a similarly priced Intel Core i5 in Handbrake. While the exact models weren't revealed, it is likely a Core i5 2400/2500 and FX-8100/8120 were benchmarked. A 5 minute standard definition was converted at 223 fps on the FX system against 188fps for the Core i5. The conclusion is simple - AMD has a 19% performance/price lead in Handbrake. While Handbrake isn't as aggressively multi-threaded as Cinebench or X264, it does respond to multiple threads, giving AMD's 8-cores an advantage (albeint disproportionate) over Intel's 4-core, 4-thread Core i5.

The second benchmark involved Dirt 3 running at 2560x1600 with two Radeon HD 6970 cards in Crossfire. An unnamed FX CPU scored 82.8fps versus 80.9fps for the Intel Core i7 980X. At such resolutions, games are extremely CPU limited, and slight performance difference does not reveal much.

The benchmarks don't reveal as much as we would have liked, but there are signs of status quo - Intel leading on performance and IPC while AMD winning on performance/$ and especially multithreaded performance.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-benc...+Enthusiast%29

[starx]

AMD FX series in mass production, launch slated for October

AMD's processor architecture Bulldozer has been a long rollercoaster with delays and silence from AMD. AMD has not offered anything by silence, but in talks with an AMD employee it has been confirmed that has started mass production of the FX series and that the launch is not far off.

AMD was supposed to launch the FX series back in Q2, but had to postpone. Instead it promised a launch in the coming 60-90 days after June 1st, thus sometime in August, which we all know didn't happen. The next rumor was September, but also this will not happen.

NordicHardware has acquired more concrete information on Bulldozer from an AMD employee. We asked what has been goingon with the FX series and why AMD has been nothing but quiet. The answer was disturbing, AMD has not been sure when it would be able to launch the FX series, which has forced them to put the lid on.

The situation is still uncertain at AMD and it is not certain when the launch will be, but mass production of AMD "Bulldozer" FX series has started. As it stands today AMD hopes to launch in 4-5 weeks. The latest rumors have been that AMD aims for October 13th and this may very well be correct.
We also get the chance to to sit with a system equipped with the octo-core processor FX-8150 clocked at 3.6 GHz with a Turbo mode at 4.2 GHz. Due to the limited time we had we only had time to runt the aged SuperPi 1.5 and wPrime 2.05. Unfortunately the results are far from representative for the final products, so these numbers are to be taken with a pinch of salt.
n the agedSuperPi it took 20.992 second to calculate 1 million decimals. Considering Bulldozer is a whole new architecture it is possible that AMD has chosen to do no real optimization of x87 code. We should not forget that SuperPi is in no way reliable for comparing performance, and even worse when it comes to AMD processors.
In the newer and more interesting wPrime 2.05 the processor gets a final score of 15.815 seconds. We have reason to believe this is not correct, since Bulldozer would perform on the level of AMD A6-3650 in that case. The odd, or to say really bad, benchmarks couild be because of several thing, but most likely the processor has an older stepping, or the BIOS did not have the latest AGESA code from AMD.

Even if the benchmarks are not reliable we can confirm one thing: if everything is going as planned at AMD the launch of the new FX series in 4-5 weeks. We should also get clear signs if the new flagship from AMD is worth the wait. AMD still says that it expects the FX series to become the fastest retail processor.

Izvor
http://www.nordichardware.com/news/6...r-october.html


Da su preterali jesu, najgore sto izgleda da nece imati cime da pariraju Intelu, ajde videcemo ali ta arhitektura hm... negde smesni rezultati kao u SuperPi na primer no sacekajmo i 13. Oktobar ako ne pomere jos...

[starx]

Pa kako stvari izgledaju cene AMD procesora ce biti nesto nize od ocekivanih?
Da li su toliko darezljivi? Ili je nesto drugo po sredi videcemo 12. Oktobra

http://www.techpowerup.com/152390/AM...-Expected.html


FX-8150 -- 245$
FX-8120 -- 205$
FX-6120 -- 175$

[Morandi]

Pa sta je sa FX 4100 ?

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Njega neće da izbacuju da ga ne zakopa i3-2100.
Stvari ne deluju nimalo dobro, šuška se od strane upućenijih da single-thread performanse mogu biti slabije nego kod Thubana, što bi bio epic fail samo po sebi.

[HSVstoned]

Ja vise ne znam ni sta da mislim
Samo znam da ce Intel moci mirno da divlja sa cenama

[Picard]

Bolje bi bilo da su samo shrinkovali postojeće procesore u 32nm, podigli im takt i izbacili X8 takođe u 32nm.