Sukob drajvera ?

[Kroket]

Konfiguracija:
Nvidia Nforce 6M-A
AMD Athlon 64 dual-core 4000+
ATI Radeon 4600
C-Media CPI
Leadtek TV 2000 Expert

Vec duze vreme imam problem.Nije bitno da li koristim XP ili Windows 7.Oba puta sam uradio svezu instalaciju i izvrsio uredan update sa Microsoft sajta.Instalaciju sam radio vise puta.Po restartovanju nekada odmah dize CPU na 80-100%,a nekada radi dobro 1-2 sata pa onda usporava.U Task Manageru NT Kernel&System ide 50-80% i komp radi vrlo sporo.Isto se ponasa sa drajverima sa originalnog CD-a i sa najnovijim.Kada udjem u Safe Mode CPU je 0%.Posle restartovanja 5 minuta radi super i onda skace na 80-100%.Antivirusni programi nisu nasli nista.Pokusao sam u Task Manageru da ugasim process NT Kernel ali ne moze.Ima li nekog drugog resenja osim zamene hardvera?

[ivance95]

Kroket kaže:

Konfiguracija:
Nvidia Nforce 6M-A
AMD Athlon 64 dual-core 4000+
ATI Radeon 4600
C-Media CPI
Leadtek TV 2000 Expert

Vec duze vreme imam problem.Nije bitno da li koristim XP ili Windows 7.Oba puta sam uradio svezu instalaciju i izvrsio uredan update sa Microsoft sajta.Instalaciju sam radio vise puta.Po restartovanju nekada odmah dize CPU na 80-100%,a nekada radi dobro 1-2 sata pa onda usporava.U Task Manageru NT Kernel&System ide 50-80% i komp radi vrlo sporo.Isto se ponasa sa drajverima sa originalnog CD-a i sa najnovijim.Kada udjem u Safe Mode CPU je 0%.Posle restartovanja 5 minuta radi super i onda skace na 80-100%.Antivirusni programi nisu nasli nista.Pokusao sam u Task Manageru da ugasim process NT Kernel ali ne moze.Ima li nekog drugog resenja osim zamene hardvera?

proveri temperaturu procesora

[Game fever]

To je skoro siguran znak virusa. U safe modu radi normalno zato sto se virus ne pokrece u safe modu. Moguce da je neki od fajlova na drugoj partici zarazen pa se virus stalno vraca. Skeniraj sve(ali bas sve ceo hard disk, sve drajvere) ja sam jednom naleto na CD windowsa koji u sebi imao virus.

[Kroket]

Temperatura je u redu.Kaspersky,Nod i Avast nisu nasli nista.Malwarebyt je nasao samo jednu sitnicu koja nije nista uticala.Evo do 6 sati popodne mi je super radio pa onda od jednom digao CPU na 100%.Evo sta je nasao Process explorer.
Process PID CPU Description Company Name
System Idle Process 0 39.55
Interrupts n/a 11.19 Hardware Interrupts
DPCs n/a 25.37 Deferred Procedure Calls
System 4 20.90
smss.exe 592 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation
csrss.exe 648 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation
winlogon.exe 680 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation
services.exe 724 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation
ati2evxx.exe 904 ATI External Event Utility EXE Module ATI Technologies Inc.
svchost.exe 920 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 992 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 1072 0.75 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
wscntfy.exe 628 Windows Security Center Notification App Microsoft Corporation
wuauclt.exe 2304 Windows Update Microsoft Corporation
wuauclt.exe 3344 Windows Update Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 1196 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 1276 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
aswUpdSv.exe 1324 avast! Antivirus updating service ALWIL Software
ashServ.exe 1372 avast! antivirus service ALWIL Software
spoolsv.exe 280 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation
ACService.exe 432 ArcSoft Connect Service ArcSoft Inc.
mDNSResponder.exe 444 Bonjour Service Apple Inc.
jqs.exe 504 Java(TM) Quick Starter Service Sun Microsystems, Inc.
mbamservice.exe 552 Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware Malwarebytes Corporation
mdm.exe 608 Machine Debug Manager Microsoft Corporation
NBService.exe 860 Nero BackItUp Nero AG
stacsv.exe 1436 STacSV Module SigmaTel, Inc.
svchost.exe 1580 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
ULCDRSvr.exe 856 ULCDRSvr Ulead Systems, Inc.
ashMaiSv.exe 2336 avast! e-Mail Scanner Service ALWIL Software
ashWebSv.exe 2440 avast! Web Scanner ALWIL Software
alg.exe 2748 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation
msiexec.exe 2200 Windows® installer Microsoft Corporation
lsass.exe 764 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation
ati2evxx.exe 1176 ATI External Event Utility EXE Module ATI Technologies Inc.
explorer.exe 1540 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation
mixer.exe 1708 Mixer C-Media Electronic Inc. (www.cmedia.com.tw)
jusched.exe 1716 Java(TM) Platform SE binary Sun Microsystems, Inc.
ashDisp.exe 1736 avast! service GUI component ALWIL Software
sttray.exe 1808 Sigmatel Audio system tray application SigmaTel, Inc.
ctfmon.exe 1856 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation
procexp.exe 3116 2.24 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com
MOM.exe 1764 Catalyst Control Center: Monitoring program Advanced Micro Devices Inc.
CCC.exe 232 Catalyst Control Centre: Host application ATI Technologies Inc.
EM_EXEC.EXE 1816 Logitech Events Handler Application Logitech Inc.

[ivance95]

Kroket kaže:

Temperatura je u redu.Kaspersky,Nod i Avast nisu nasli nista.Malwarebyt je nasao samo jednu sitnicu koja nije nista uticala.Evo do 6 sati popodne mi je super radio pa onda od jednom digao CPU na 100%.Evo sta je nasao Process explorer.
Process PID CPU Description Company Name
System Idle Process 0 39.55
Interrupts n/a 11.19 Hardware Interrupts
DPCs n/a 25.37 Deferred Procedure Calls
System 4 20.90
smss.exe 592 Windows NT Session Manager Microsoft Corporation
csrss.exe 648 Client Server Runtime Process Microsoft Corporation
winlogon.exe 680 Windows NT Logon Application Microsoft Corporation
services.exe 724 Services and Controller app Microsoft Corporation
ati2evxx.exe 904 ATI External Event Utility EXE Module ATI Technologies Inc.
svchost.exe 920 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 992 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 1072 0.75 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
wscntfy.exe 628 Windows Security Center Notification App Microsoft Corporation
wuauclt.exe 2304 Windows Update Microsoft Corporation
wuauclt.exe 3344 Windows Update Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 1196 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 1276 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
aswUpdSv.exe 1324 avast! Antivirus updating service ALWIL Software
ashServ.exe 1372 avast! antivirus service ALWIL Software
spoolsv.exe 280 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation
ACService.exe 432 ArcSoft Connect Service ArcSoft Inc.
mDNSResponder.exe 444 Bonjour Service Apple Inc.
jqs.exe 504 Java(TM) Quick Starter Service Sun Microsystems, Inc.
mbamservice.exe 552 Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware Malwarebytes Corporation
mdm.exe 608 Machine Debug Manager Microsoft Corporation
NBService.exe 860 Nero BackItUp Nero AG
stacsv.exe 1436 STacSV Module SigmaTel, Inc.
svchost.exe 1580 Generic Host Process for Win32 Services Microsoft Corporation
ULCDRSvr.exe 856 ULCDRSvr Ulead Systems, Inc.
ashMaiSv.exe 2336 avast! e-Mail Scanner Service ALWIL Software
ashWebSv.exe 2440 avast! Web Scanner ALWIL Software
alg.exe 2748 Application Layer Gateway Service Microsoft Corporation
msiexec.exe 2200 Windows® installer Microsoft Corporation
lsass.exe 764 LSA Shell (Export Version) Microsoft Corporation
ati2evxx.exe 1176 ATI External Event Utility EXE Module ATI Technologies Inc.
explorer.exe 1540 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation
mixer.exe 1708 Mixer C-Media Electronic Inc. (www.cmedia.com.tw)
jusched.exe 1716 Java(TM) Platform SE binary Sun Microsystems, Inc.
ashDisp.exe 1736 avast! service GUI component ALWIL Software
sttray.exe 1808 Sigmatel Audio system tray application SigmaTel, Inc.
ctfmon.exe 1856 CTF Loader Microsoft Corporation
procexp.exe 3116 2.24 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com
MOM.exe 1764 Catalyst Control Center: Monitoring program Advanced Micro Devices Inc.
CCC.exe 232 Catalyst Control Centre: Host application ATI Technologies Inc.
EM_EXEC.EXE 1816 Logitech Events Handler Application Logitech Inc.

Pogledaj u Task manageru koji od ovih procesa najvise zauzima CPU.

[doctor]

Instaliraj AMD Dual-Core Optimizer i skeniraj PC sa nekim AV-om svezom bazom, a i sa Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware... Opet Copy/Paste radi

[Kroket]

Vratio sam se na Windows 7(backup Acronisom).Isto zauzece CPU.U proslom XP-u zauzece je bilo:
Deferred Procedure Calls 25%
System 21%
Hardware Interrupts 11%
Instalirao sam CPU optimizer.Sto se tice antivirusa sve je juce ispregledano i nista nije nadjeno.Odneo bih ga ja u servis na novu instalaciju.Ali plasim se da posle nekoliko sati dobrog rada on digne CPU,ja ga vratim u servis a oni kazu kod nas je radio usao ti virus i bacene pare.U W7 Process explorer nije hteo da radi evo sta je nasao HijackThis:


Running processes:
C:\Windows\system32\Dwm.exe
C:\Windows\Explorer.EXE
C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashDisp.exe
C:\Program Files\Topmost Clock\TopMostClock.exe
C:\Windows\system32\taskhost.exe
C:\Users\Dule\Desktop\hijackthis_sfx\HijackThis.ex e
C:\Windows\system32\SearchProtocolHost.exe

R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://www.google.rs/
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,SearchAssistant =
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Search,CustomizeSearch =
R1 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Int ernet Settings,ProxyOverride = *.local
R0 - HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Toolbar,LinksFolderName =
O2 - BHO: HP Print Enhancer - {0347C33E-8762-4905-BF09-768834316C61} - C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\Smart Web Printing\hpswp_printenhancer.dll
O2 - BHO: Adobe PDF Reader Link Helper - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: flashget2 urlcatch - {1F364306-AA45-47B5-9F9D-39A8B94E7EF1} - C:\Program Files\FlashGet Network\FlashGet universal\ComDlls\bhoCATCH.dll
O2 - BHO: RealPlayer Download and Record Plugin for Internet Explorer - {3049C3E9-B461-4BC5-8870-4C09146192CA} - C:\Program Files\Real\RealPlayer\rpbrowserrecordplugin.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} - C:\Program Files\Google\Google Toolbar\GoogleToolbar_32.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Notifier BHO - {AF69DE43-7D58-4638-B6FA-CE66B5AD205D} - C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\5.2.4204.1700\s wg.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Dictionary Compression sdch - {C84D72FE-E17D-4195-BB24-76C02E2E7C4E} - C:\Program Files\Google\Google Toolbar\Component\fastsearch_B7C5AC242193BB3E.dll
O2 - BHO: Java(tm) Plug-In 2 SSV Helper - {DBC80044-A445-435b-BC74-9C25C1C588A9} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jp2ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: HP Smart BHO Class - {FFFFFFFF-CF4E-4F2B-BDC2-0E72E116A856} - C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\Smart Web Printing\hpswp_BHO.dll
O3 - Toolbar: Google Toolbar - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - C:\Program Files\Google\Google Toolbar\GoogleToolbar_32.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] "C:\Program Files\Java\jre6\bin\jusched.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [avast!] "C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashDisp.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [amd_dc_opt] C:\Program Files\AMD\Dual-Core Optimizer\amd_dc_opt.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [TopmostClock] C:\Program Files\Topmost Clock\TopMostClock.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Gamma Loader.lnk = C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration\Adobe Gamma Loader.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Download All by FlashGet - C:\Program Files\FlashGet Network\FlashGet universal\ComDlls\Bhoall.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Download by FlashGet - C:\Program Files\FlashGet Network\FlashGet universal\ComDlls\Bholink.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\Office10\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: HP Smart Select - {DDE87865-83C5-48c4-8357-2F5B1AA84522} - C:\Program Files\Hewlett-Packard\Digital Imaging\Smart Web Printing\hpswp_BHO.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\windows\system32\nlaapi.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\windows\system32\napinsp.dll
O10 - Unknown file in Winsock LSP: c:\program files\bonjour\mdnsnsp.dll
O11 - Options group: [INTERNATIONAL] International
O13 - Gopher Prefix:
O23 - Service: ArcSoft Connect Daemon (ACDaemon) - ArcSoft Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\ArcSoft\Connection Service\Bin\ACService.exe
O23 - Service: AMD External Events Utility - AMD - C:\Windows\system32\atiesrxx.exe
O23 - Service: avast! iAVS4 Control Service (aswUpdSv) - ALWIL Software - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\aswUpdSv.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Antivirus - ALWIL Software - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashServ.exe
O23 - Service: avast! Mail Scanner - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashMaiSv.exe" /service (file missing)
O23 - Service: avast! Web Scanner - Unknown owner - C:\Program Files\Alwil Software\Avast4\ashWebSv.exe" /service (file missing)
O23 - Service: Bonjour Service - Apple Inc. - C:\Program Files\Bonjour\mDNSResponder.exe
O23 - Service: Google Software Updater (gusvc) - Google - C:\Program Files\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
O23 - Service: MBAMService - Malwarebytes Corporation - C:\Program Files\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware\mbamservice.exe
O23 - Service: O&O Defrag - O&O Software GmbH - C:\Windows\system32\oodag.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\qwave.dll,-1 (QWAVE) - Unknown owner - %windir%\system32\svchost.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\system32\seclogon.dll,-7001 (seclogon) - Unknown owner - %windir%\system32\svchost.exe (file missing)
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\TuneUpDefragService.exe,-1 (TuneUp.Defrag) - TuneUp Software - C:\Windows\System32\TuneUpDefragService.exe
O23 - Service: @%SystemRoot%\System32\TUProgSt.exe,-1 (TuneUp.ProgramStatisticsSvc) - TuneUp Software - C:\Windows\System32\TUProgSt.exe
O23 - Service: Ulead Burning Helper (UleadBurningHelper) - Ulead Systems, Inc. - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\DVD\ULCDRSvr.exe
O23 - Service: @%PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe,-101 (WMPNetworkSvc) - Unknown owner - %PROGRAMFILES%\Windows Media Player\wmpnetwk.exe (file missing)

[Kroket]

Evo sada i u Safe modu drzi CPU na 60% a morao bi na 0%.

[doctor]

Instaliraj AMD Dual-Core Optimizer i skeniraj PC sa nekim AV-om svezom bazom, a i sa Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware... Opet Copy/Paste radi

Da se citiram

[Kroket]

Doctore, nema potrebe za citiranjem.U proslom postu sam rekao da sam instalirao optimizer.Antivirusni programi su pregledali sistem 24 sata pre toga kada je imao iste simptome i nista nisu nasli.U subotu ujutru sveza instalacija sa najnovijim drajverima.Ako nista onda u ponedeljak servis.

[doctor]

Kroket kaže:

Doctore, nema potrebe za citiranjem.U proslom postu sam rekao da sam instalirao optimizer.Antivirusni programi su pregledali sistem 24 sata pre toga kada je imao iste simptome i nista nisu nasli.U subotu ujutru sveza instalacija sa najnovijim drajverima.Ako nista onda u ponedeljak servis.

Izvinjavam se, my mistake

[Kroket]

Samo da kazem da je komp upaljen jutros u 7 sati.Skida filmove dok sam na poslu.Evo sad sam dosao i CPU je 5%.Da li je moguce da je to samo zbog instalacije Dual-core optimizera ili je slucajnost?Ako je samo zbog ovog programcica onda doctore svaka ti dala.Znaci da je ipak bio hardveski problem.Sta uopste ovaj programcic radi?

[Kroket]

Cudo se nije dogodilo.Evo posle 15 sati rada digao je CPU na 90% i vuce se kao baba.Idem da spavam i sutra nova instalacija.

[doctor]

Ako ti ne upali sa reinstalacijom (a, da ne baksuizram, ali, najverovatnije nece), onda flash BIOS-a->format celog HDD. Probaj sta je drago od ta dva Ja sam imao pre ovaj problem sa M3A i menjao sam plocu, jer je problem bio neresiv... Doduse, navedena k'o iz pakla da je izasla

[Kroket]

Format svih particija,instalacija ovog puta XP i sve dzabe.Instalirao najnovije drajvere i sve u redu.Update Win sa Microsoftovog sajta sve u redu.Napravim bekap Acronisom,restartovanje i dize sistem sa CPU 80%.Razbio bih ga.U ponedeljak ujutru ide u servis.Mozda im ponudim plocu i procesor za drugi novi uz doplatu.Najgore sto kod njih posle instalacije bude mozda radio,ja ga donesem kuci i posle par sati digne CPU.Ja ga vratim kod njih sve u redu i moze tako u nedogled.Trenutno pisem u Windows 7 i kao sve u redu.Mada cudno mi je da Opera zauzima CPU 50%,mislim da tako nije bilo do sada.System je 0%.

[Selver]

Da nije gripu fasovo pa ima temperaturu?Kako radi fan na procesoru?Da nije poceo da podbacuje??Skacel` temp?

[Kroket]

Nema temperaturu.Ja sam do sada sigurno 100 puta instalirao Win,ali sutra ide u servis,format svih particija i vracam se na XP.Neka oni malo biju glavu,jebes 1000 dinara koliko uzimaju za to.Dve nedelje se ja patim.Ovo je zbog Win7 i nastalo.Zbog njega sam promenio graficku,zvucnu i TV karticu.I od tada su problemi.Ponudicu u servisu da mi zamene plocu i procesor za neki drugi uz doplatu.Jutros vratim Acronisom W7,super radi pola sata ja napravim novi bekap restartujem i CPU 90%.Ne mogu da ga gledam vise,sada je CPU oko 70%.

[Selver]

Sretno sa servisom...

[Luka.]

Srecno,javi sta si uradio

[doctor]

Ako nisi odneo PC u servis... Nadji najstarije drajvere koje mozes za komponente koje imas