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Stara 7.10.2007, 23:45   #21
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Imam jedan predlog. Nije ni cudo sto ljudi misle ili ih associra da su nase jedinice vizantijske. Sama ljubicasta boja baci mozak u rebus. Mogli bi promeniti boju, staviti makar belu sa crvenom ili neko drugo resenje!

Ja sam uvek voleo kada gledam neki film, da vidim istu jedinicu sa stitovima koji imaju razlicite simbole i kombinacije boja. Od onih seljackih, pa do samih plemica! Ne znam koliki je to posao ali bi bili jako zanimljivo kada bi stavili makar jednoj jedinici takve karakteristike! Hvala.
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e ljudi, pa zar ne vidite da su to stari stitovi iz vanile. Promenio sam jedinicu samo nisam stitove! Jesam kod nekih, ali zasto bih stavio uopste ljubicasto? To sto vidite da je ljubicasto kod nekog skina, to zanemarite, to ce biti izmenjeno.
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Svaka cast za zalaganje! Voleo bih da mogu nekako da pomognem, ali sam racunarski potpuno nepismen... Uzgred, sitnice (boje i slicne gluposti) nisu bitne. Pa i u osnovnoj varijanti igre ima potpunih istorijskih promasaja (Zagreb je najbolji primer), pa sta?!
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Stara 8.10.2007, 13:02   #24
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Naravno da to nije nista strasno. vidim ja phoenix da si promenio jedinice. Samo sam podsetio na to. U detaljima lezi car.
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I'M PROUD TO PRESENT YOU:
TSARDOMS: TOTAL WAR - FIRST PREVIEW



Factions in v1.00

Roman Catholic Christians
Kingdom of Hungary
Kingdom of Naples
Republic of Venice

Orthodox Christians
Tsardom of Serbia
Tsardom of Bulgaria
Byzantine Empire
Principality of Wallachia

Muslims
Ottoman Empire

Krstjani
Banate of Bosnia

The following factions will be added in later mod versions: Duchy of Athens, Knights of Rhodes (Knights of St.John), Archduchy of Austria (the House of Hapsburg), Karamanid Emirate
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Map

The map includes part of Italy, Balkans and Asia Minor and it will contain about hundred regions which will allow us to represent the area in a realistic fashion.


Flags and faction symbols

Tsardoms: Total War, in its final version, will include over 100 totally new flags and coats of arms.
We take heraldry very seriously, so we decided to make a reconstruction of all primary sources made known to us. Here you can see results in some examples (made by matko and phoenix[illusion]):



The King of Hungary, The Ban of Bosnia, The Roman Emperor

Here you can see 4 randomly selected faction symbols (by Ave_Serbia):

Principality of Wallachia, The Empire of Romans, Knights of Rhodes, The Republic of Venice
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Tsardom of Serbia: Units Part I
( all models and skins by phoenix[illusion] - except for the skins on horses )

"At first we were confused. The East thought that we were West, while the West considered us to be East. Some of us misunderstood our place in the clash of currents, so they cried that we belong to neither side- and others that we belong exclusively to one side or the other. But I tell you, Irenaeus, we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East, to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us, and here on earth--no one." - St. Sava (of Serbia) to Irenaeus, 13th century

Although Serbia has long been in the shadow of more powerful rivals in the Balkans like Byzantium, Hungary and Bulgaria, under the Nemanjic dynasty its influence and power grew significantly. In 1345, Serbia is a dominant power in the peninsula and one of the most serious contentenders, along with Ottomans, Hungarians and Venetians, for the legacy of Byzantium. The player who controls Serbia will have these units (among others) at his disposal...

Shielded Bowmen

Shielded Bowmen are the evolution of early Serbian archers. They are primarily archers, but unlike their predecessors they are armed with swords, carry shields for protection, and wear light armour. In battles they act as archers and they can fight melee but are not effective as standard infantry. They are best for weakening the enemy with a rain of arrows and for defending settlements. Historically-speaking, in feudal Serbia there was a class of people called vlasi (vlachs) who were cattle breeders. They had an obligation to provide certain number of soldiers and were archers in Serbian armies. In the famous Battle of Velbužd (1330) they inflicted great losses on Bulgarian army.






Upgraded Shielded Bowmen




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Heavy Infantry

Historically, there were free people in high feudalism in Serbia who weren’t meropsi (peasants), but neither had they income enough to buy horses and expensive cavalry equipment (like vlastela). Because of that they became infantry (ordinary called vojnici) and formed a class called vlastelcici, the lowest ranked nobility. These soldiers are covered with mail, have a round shield and are armed with a sword. The unit can be upgraded with better armour and then the soldiers will wear scale and lamellar armour (like on these pictures).





Serbian Speramen

Historically, there were free people in high feudalism in Serbia who weren’t meropsi (peasants), but neither had they enough incomes to buy horses and expensive cavalry equipment (like vlastela). Because of that they became infantry (ordinary called vojnici) and formed a class which was called vlastelcici, the lowest ranked nobility. These soldiers are covered with mail, have a large round shield and are armed with a spear.



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Horsearchers

Serbian Horsearchers are light missile cavalrymen drawn from various nations popular known as Turcopoles. These cavalrymen are armed with bows and arrows and in close combat they use swords and sabres. For protection they use smaller shields and light armour which allow them higher maneuverability. Historically, they were mercenaries hired from Cumans, Turks, Alans and Tatars and were heavily hired in time of King Milutin (1282-1321). He used them mostly in several civil wars with his brother Dragutin and for special tasks when he couldn’t rely on the Serbian nobility. In 1321 he sent a unit of 2000 Cuman Turcopoles to help Andronicus II to hold his rule in Roman Empire





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Auxilia Cavalry

These horseman, recruited from among the lower nobility, are armed in Byzantine fashion. Their equipment consists from a scale/lemellar loricon,
mail protection for arms and legs and an open helmet. They use spears and swords in combat.
In a beginning of the 14th century they were seen as heavy calvary but now (in the year 1345), with the development of the plate armour, they should be considered as medium cavalry. Auxilia are a support cavalry for heavier troops like Vlastela; they cannot defeat western style knights in a direct battle but their speed and manoeuverability makes them useful on the battlefield.








And it is important to mention that we have got permission from DisgruntledGoat to use his beautiful skins for Byzantine Empire.
Skins on horses that you see in pictures above are his.


Gameplay

Tsardoms will bring many changes to gameplay to reflect our aim of striking a perfect balance between gameplay and historical plausability. More realistic economy, harder and longer sieges, improved recruting system, realistic population growth, more buildings etc.


Ok, ideje/ideas, misljenja/opinions i/and kritike/criticism su/are dobrodosli/welcome...



In the next preview you can expect: more information about gameplay and the map (and some in-game screenshots), the rest of the Serbian units (the mighty Vlastela heavy cavalry, Gusars light cavalry...), and maybe even some units from the Banate of Bosnia.
Stay tuned for more information:laugh4:

PS
I want to use this opportunity to congratulate the whole team. We worked hard and now tw are proud to show the result !
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Super! Samo nastavite! BTW, hoće li se Srbija pomoću ovog moda moći birati u grand kampanji?
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Svaka cast momci super....jednostavno nemam reci samo tako nastavite
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E, svaka vam cast!Samo nastavite...
Sto se tice bogumila.Koliko ja znam oni su bili sekta koja je iz Bugarske dosla u Srbiju odakle ih je odmah isterao Dusan Silni i tada su presli u Bosnu gde su se zadrzali dok ih Austrijanci nisu sve pobili(njih su iskoristili kao razlog za ucestale napade na Bosnu).
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Е свака част људи
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Stara 27.10.2007, 22:18   #35
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Citat:
...But I tell you, Irenaeus, we are doomed by fate to be the East in the West and the West in the East, to acknowledge only heavenly Jerusalem beyond us, and here on earth--no one." - St. Sava (of Serbia) to Irenaeus, 13th century
U prevodu na prevod:

All your base are belong to us
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A kako da se dodje do ovog moda?
Uzgled svaka cast na trudu
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Citat:
4th Dimension kaže: Pregled poruke
U prevodu na prevod:

All your base are belong to us
Mislis li da je slucajno sto sam izabrao bas taj citat?
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Citat:
dragomix kaže: Pregled poruke
A kako da se dodje do ovog moda?
Uzgled svaka cast na trudu
Jošte nije završen. Ovo je preview.
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Vidim radilo se, svaka cast!
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Samo da iskoristim priliku da ponovim da nam jos uvek trebaju novi clanovi tima. Ljudi koji znaju da rade sa teksturama, da kodiraju, modeluju itd... neka se jave Phoenixu ili meni.
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