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Stara 29.9.2019, 21:26   #61
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Brzinu procesora sam smanjio u Windows 10 Power Options gde se dinamicki regulise samo takt procesora a ne memorijskog kontrolera (a test sam izvrsio u CentOS 7 VM). Mislim da takt memorije ni ne moze da se smanji dinamicki. Kontroler radi punom brzinom sto sam i proverio sa CPU-Z programom.
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Evo ja sada pogledah na svom prilicno starom laptopu, CPU-Z ne daje nikakve podatke o mem. kontroleru, dok se jedino menja vrednost frekvencije DRAM i to u vrlo malim koracima.

Evo ti formula koju odredjuje bandwidth i iz nje mozes videti da na nju ne utice klok CPU. Memorija vise zavisi od kloka FSB. Naravno, na ruskom, kako ti volis



Пропускная способность (B) = Частота передачи (f) x разрядность шины (c) x количество каналов памяти(k)
Если рассматривать на примере DDR400 (400 МГц) с двухканальным контроллером памяти пиковый показатель скорости передачи данных равен:
(400 МГц x 64 бит x 2)/ 8 бит = 6400 Мбайт/с
На 8 мы поделили, чтобы перевести Мбит/с в Мбайт/с (в 1 байте 8 бит).


К примеру, для процессора Intel core 2 duo E6850 с системной шиной 1333 MHz и пропускной способностью 10600 Mb/s, нужно купить две оперативные памяти с пропускной способностью 5300 Mb/s каждая (PC2-5300), в сумме они будут иметь пропускную способность системной шины (FSB) равную 10600 Mb/s.
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Sve je to teorija ali u praksi takt procesora itekako utice na rezultat STREAM benchmarka. Inace takt memorije prikazan u CPU-Z je direktno povezan sa taktom memorijskog kontrolera i on se ne menja sa taktom procesora koji se dinamicki menja u skladu sa power saving opcijama.
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Brzinu procesora sam smanjio u Windows 10 Power Options
Sa ovime bi trebalo da još više možeš da smanjiš https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/24075/Intel-Extreme-Tuning-Utility-Intel-XTU-
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https://youtu.be/IcDPTdQ7osY

Na videu je testiranje procesora Elbrus-8C na 1.3 GHz programom Aida64 na Windows 8 u rezimu binarnog prevodjenja (emulacija). Raspolozivo je 6 procesora dok 2 koristi binarni prevodioc.

Ispod je poredjenje sa Ryzen na istom taktu.

Kod:
----------------|-----------------------|--------------------------
                | Elbrus-8C @ 1,3 GHz   |   Ryzen 2600 @ 1,3 GHz
                | (6 cores)             |   (6 cores, SMT off,
                |                       |   PBO off, DDR4-1600)
----------------|-----------------------|--------------------------
Queen           |      13693            |          13063
PhotoWorx       |      5651             |          10914
ZLib            |      125              |          108
AES             |      520              |          13833
Hash            |      1486             |          3488
VP8             |      1283             |          2970
Julia           |      3782             |          8710
Mandel          |      1937             |          4628
SinJulia        |      916              |          2083
FP32 Ray-Trace  |      385              |          1688
FP64 Ray-Trace  |      136              |          927
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CPU Queen Benchmark
This simple integer benchmark focuses on the branch prediction capabilities and the misprediction penalties of the CPU. It finds the solutions for the classic "Queens problem" on a 10 by 10 sized chessboard. At the same clock speed theoretically the processor with the shorter pipeline and smaller misprediction penalties will attain higher benchmark scores. For example -- with HyperThreading disabled -- the Intel Northwood core processors get higher scores than the Intel Prescott core based ones due to the 20-step vs 31-step long pipeline. CPU Queen test uses integer MMX, SSE2 and SSSE3 optimizations.


CPU PhotoWorxx Benchmark
This benchmark performs different common tasks used during digital photo processing.

This benchmark stresses the SIMD integer arithmetic execution units of the CPU and also the memory subsystem. CPU PhotoWorxx test uses the appropriate x87, MMX, MMX+, 3DNow!, 3DNow!+, SSE, SSE2, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4A, AVX, AVX2, XOP and AVX-512 instruction set extension and it is NUMA, HyperThreading, multi-processor (SMP) and multi-core (CMP) aware.


CPU ZLib Benchmark
This integer benchmark measures combined CPU and memory subsystem performance through the public ZLib compression library. CPU ZLib test uses only the basic x86 instructions, and it is HyperThreading, multi-processor (SMP) and multi-core (CMP) aware.


CPU AES Benchmark
This benchmark measures CPU performance using AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) data encryption.
CPU AES test uses the appropriate x86, MMX and SSE4.1 instructions, and it's hardware accelerated on VIA PadLock Security Engine capable VIA C3, VIA C7, VIA Nano and VIA QuadCore processors; and on Intel AES-NI instruction set extension and the future VAES capable processors. The test is HyperThreading, multi-processor (SMP) and multi-core (CMP) aware.


CPU Hash Benchmark
This benchmark measures CPU performance using the SHA1 hashing algorithm. The code behind this benchmark method is written in Assembly, and it is optimized for every popular AMD, Intel and VIA processor core variants by utilizing the appropriate MMX, MMX+/SSE, SSE2, SSSE3, AVX, AVX2, XOP, BMI, BMI2 and AVX-512 instruction set extension. CPU Hash benchmark is hardware accelerated on VIA PadLock Security Engine capable VIA C7, VIA Nano and VIA QuadCore processors.


FPU VP8 Benchmark
This benchmark measures video compression performance using the Google VP8 (WebM) video codec Version 1.1.0 (http://www.webmproject.org). FPU VP8 test encodes 1280x720 pixel ("HD ready") resolution video frames in 1-pass mode at 8192 kbps bitrate with best quality settings. The content of the frames are generated by the FPU Julia fractal module. The code behind this benchmark method utilizes the appropriate MMX, SSE2, SSSE3 or SSE4.1 instruction set extension, and it is HyperThreading, multi-processor (SMP) and multi-core (CMP) aware.


FPU Julia Benchmark
This benchmark measures the single precision (also known as 32-bit) floating-point performance through the computation of several frames of the popular "Julia" fractal. The code behind this benchmark method is written in Assembly, and it is extremely optimized for every popular AMD, Intel and VIA processor core variants by utilizing the appropriate x87, 3DNow!, 3DNow!+, SSE, AVX, AVX2, FMA, FMA4 and AVX-512 instruction set extension. FPU Julia test is HyperThreading, multi-processor (SMP) and multi-core (CMP) aware.


FPU Mandel Benchmark
This benchmark measures the double precision (also known as 64-bit) floating-point performance through the computation of several frames of the popular "Mandelbrot" fractal. The code behind this benchmark method is written in Assembly, and it is extremely optimized for every popular AMD, Intel and VIA processor core variants by utilizing the appropriate x87, SSE2, AVX, AVX2, FMA, FMA4 and AVX-512 instruction set extension. FPU Mandel test is HyperThreading, multi-processor (SMP) and multi-core (CMP) aware.


FPU SinJulia Benchmark
This benchmark measures the extended precision (also known as 80-bit) floating-point performance through the computation of a single frame of a modified "Julia" fractal. The code behind this benchmark method is written in Assembly, and it is extremely optimized for every popular AMD, Intel and VIA processor core variants by utilizing trigonometric and exponential x87 instructions. FPU SinJulia is HyperThreading, multi-processor (SMP) and multi-core (CMP) aware.


Ray tracing benchmarks
These benchmarks measure the single and double precision (also known as 32-bit and 64-bit) floating-point performance through the computation of a scene with a SIMD-enhanced ray tracing engine. The code behind this benchmark method is written in Assembly, and it is extremely optimized for every popular AMD, Intel and VIA processor core variants by utilizing the appropriate x87, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, AVX, AVX2, XOP, FMA, FMA4 and AVX-512 instruction set extension. Both FP32 and FP64 Ray-Trace test is HyperThreading, multi-processor (SMP) and multi-core (CMP) aware.

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Kako radi na kernelu dediciranom za njega? Na npr ALT linuxu? Probao?
https://www.altlinux.org/Ports/e2k


https://www.basealt.ru/about/news/ar...latformy-ehlb/

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U Linuxu ima brzinu blisku Sandy Bridge na istom taktu prema SPEC 2006 testu.
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Ruska zeleznica kupuje 15 hiljada Elbrus kompjutera za 15 miliona evra.

https://www.cnews.ru/news/top/2020-0...pk_na_elbrusah
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https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/405136

108 Single-Core Score
645 Multi-Core Score

Elbrus 8C @1.3GHz Geekbench rezultat na Windows 10 Pro 64-bit u rezimu binarnog prevodjenja (emulacije). Od 8 jezgara raspolozivo je 6 jer su 2 jezgra za binarni prevodioc.

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https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/3049784

159 Single-Core Score
1087 Multi-Core Score

Elbrus 8CV @1.55GHz Geekbench rezultat na Linux x86 (64-bit) u rezimu binarnog prevodjenja (emulacije).
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Novosti.

Prva vest je da je Elbrus-16C na 2 GHz prakticno gotov. Medjutim izgleda da ruska drzava odustaje od VLIW (Elbrus) procesora i okrece se ka RISC-V procesorima ruske kompanije Yadro.

Evo rezultati 7zip testa Elbrus 16C.

Kod:
7-Zip (a) 16.02 : Copyright (c) 1999-2016 Igor Pavlov : 2016-05-21
p7zip Version 16.02 (locale=ru_RU.UTF-8,Utf16=on,HugeFiles=on,64 bits,16 CPUs LE)

LE
CPU Freq:  1998  1998  1998  1997  1998  1998  1998  1999  1999

RAM size:  128826 MB,  # CPU hardware threads:  16
RAM usage:   3530 MB,  # Benchmark threads:     16

                       Compressing  |                  Decompressing
Dict     Speed Usage    R/U Rating  |      Speed Usage    R/U Rating
         KiB/s     %   MIPS   MIPS  |      KiB/s     %   MIPS   MIPS

22:      18074  1203   1462  17583  |     396087  1590   2125  33782
23:      18095  1251   1474  18437  |     390327  1591   2123  33772
24:      18113  1272   1531  19476  |     382019  1586   2114  33532
25:      18205  1303   1596  20786  |     369400  1582   2078  32875
----------------------------------  | ------------------------------
Avr:            1257   1516  19070  |             1587   2110  33490
Tot:            1422   1813  26280
Druga vest je da Rusi vec nekoliko godina rade na Rentgenskoj litografiji bez maske sa upotrebom MEMS tehnologije (mikroogledala, slicno kao kod projektora) koja daje proizvode klase 13nm.
Rusi su zakljucili da je ovo izvodljivo za njihove potrebe malih serija (za vojsku i kosmos) pogotovo jer Zapad nece da im proda ili proizvodi za njih u ovoj tehnologiji, plus i da hoce nece da zavise od njih pa da prodju kao kineski Huawei. Zakacena slika za ilustraciju. U malim serijama se mnogo vise isplati nego klasicna litografija.
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