The Elder Scrolls V - Skyrim

[SirDuck]

A mislim da od ovog Skyrima neće biti ništa posebno, ipak su gadno zagazili u komercijalno sklepane igre, i očigledno im to donosi kintu, a zašto popravljati nešto što radi?

Voleo bi ja da valja, al sam skeptičan. videćemo 11.11.11

[Marti Misterija]

Ako se malo sklone u stranu i daju malo prostora i Svabama koje su pravile Nehrim mozda nesto i bude od njega posto su Svabe odradile jedan sasvim dobar posao.

[bacacar]

SirDuck kaže:

A mislim da od ovog Skyrima neće biti ništa posebno, ipak su gadno zagazili u komercijalno sklepane igre, i očigledno im to donosi kintu, a zašto popravljati nešto što radi?

Sto bi onda menjali ista u Fallout NV ako im je Fallout 3 bio dobar? Valjda ce da odrade isto i sa Skyrim-om! Videcemo!

[vukodav]

Marti Misterija kaže:

Ako se malo sklone u stranu i daju malo prostora i Svabama koje su pravile Nehrim mozda nesto i bude od njega posto su Svabe odradile jedan sasvim dobar posao.

Meni se ceo Nehrim cinio kao slika onoga sto je "Gothic 3" trebao, i mogao da bude, ali je nesrecnim spletom okolnosti ostao kao dete zaostalo u razvoju(Mislim na Gothic, naravno).

[Vulee]

bacacar kaže:

Sto bi onda menjali ista u Fallout NV ako im je Fallout 3 bio dobar? Valjda ce da odrade isto i sa Skyrim-om! Videcemo!

Zato što oni nisu radili NV, već MCA--- ovaj Obsidian.

[bacacar]

Vulee kaže:

Zato što oni nisu radili NV, već MCA--- ovaj Obsidian.

Pa dobro, valjda ce opet nekog da unajme da im napravi dobru igru!!!

[voodoo_]

Auh...
Evo, ja sam proveo u Morrowindu nebrojeno sati, a potom i u Oblivionu, i mogu da kažem pod jedan, da si se nalupao kao car, a pod dva, da je sadašnja Bethesda bleda senka nekadašnje, jer je od izlaska Morrowinda pa do danas iz nje otišlo nekoliko ljudi koji su bili ključni za razvoj serijala The Elder Scrolls, i da danas u Bethesdi rade mahom novajlije koje nemaju K od kreativnosti nekadašnjih članova. I naravno Todd, koji je budaletina, što se lako zaključuje iz njegovih sleazy obraćanja javnosti. Stoga postoji osnovana sumnja da TES5 neće biti dobra igra. Daj bože da grešim, ali na osnovu dosadašnjih informacija i iskustava, ako je sami budu pravili, biće još jedna politički korektna limunadica za pričom prepunom šablona i stereotipa, koju pređeš jednom i zaboraviš da si je ikada igrao.

Obsidian je pojam developera jer su sve igre koje su napravili imale dušu, to pod jedan. Pod dva, NWN2: Mask of the Betrayer je jedan od najboljih fantazijskih RPG-ova koji je ikad izašao za PC. Pod tri, osećaj tokom igranja Fallouta 3 i duh New Vegasa ne mogu da se porede. Pod četiri, priča u Obsidianovim igrama, interakcija među karakterima, ne mogu da se porede sa bilo čime iz Obliviona i Fallouta. Oblivion sam sa ekspanzijama prešao uzduž i popreko jer generalno volim fantazijske igre, ali za FO3 nisam imao volje, jer su potpuno uspeli da promaše atmosferu koju bi jedna takva igra trebalo da ima. To što postoji slow-motion pucanje u glavu je ne čini kvalitetnom igrom za odrasle. Odigraj Vampire Bloodlines i videćeš šta je jedna mature igra, u svakom aspektu. Naročito su dijalozi katastrofalni u novijim Bethesdinim igrama, izgledaju kao da su prošli pet cenzora i da je iz njih izbačeno ste što bi i najmanje moglo da privuče pažnju nekom od tamošnjih anti-igrački nastrojenih političara.

Tako da ćuti i ne blamiraj se više. To što "većina" misli nešto (koja većina? debela američka deca koja kupuju najviše igara?) nije nikakav argument. Većina misli i da je Hari Poter vrhunac moderne književnosti, ali samo zato što nije pročitala ništa drugo. Oblivion nije i nikada ne može biti remek delo, svojevremeno sam isto tako penio po forumima i branio ga iz sve snage, ali kada prođe neko vreme i emocije se slegnu, iskristališe se šta je dobra igra a šta suvi prosek. Zaboravi se grafika i sve, ostane samo sećanje na to da li si igrao igru koja te tretira kao čoveka s mozgom i osećanjima, ili te tretira kao još jednog konzumenta sterilnog korporativnog proizvoda.

[Uros12]

Post godine.Vodoo je bukvalno sve objasnio,to da su Bethesdini radnici "majstori" je samo na osnovu stare slave.

[DeCoy]

Zaključano dok ne bude novih informacija... PM-ujte me ako saznate nešto konkretno!

[voodoo_]

Izašli skenovi sa screenshotovima iz Skyrima.


Izgleda odlično, mada, pošto sam pratio najave Obliviona svojevremeno, i Oblivion je na promo screenshotovima i trejlerima izgledao duplo bolje nego što je izgledao kad je igra napokon izašla (čak i na max detaljima), tako da ne verujem ništa dok se Skyrim ne pojavi.

[Marti Misterija]

@ Voodoo_

Iskreno govoreci, sudeci po slikama jako lepo ce da izgleda sa strane grafike i ukoliko se kockice poklope tako da i po svim ostalim pitanjima (ili bar po najvecem delu pitanja) budu na nivou grafike a oni se, sto bi rekli starci, uzmu u pamet, i otklone propuste iz Obliviona cini mi se da bi Skyrim mogla da bude dobra igra. Sad samo treba da se uozbilje i ne zaseru stvari kao sto oni to vec znaju.

[voodoo_]

Marti Misterija kaže:

@ Voodoo_

Iskreno govoreci, sudeci po slikama jako lepo ce da izgleda sa strane grafike

Pa da, ali kažem, i Oblivion je u trejlerima izgledao nerealno dobro, a nije tako izgledao kad se pojavio. S obzirom da će i Skyrim morati da se radi za aktuelnu generaciju konzola, osećam da su ovi shotovi šarena laža napimpovana radi slikanja i da će uživo izgledati dosta lošije zarad tečne animacije.

[Marti Misterija]

Nek sve ostalo bude kako treba a losiju grafiku mogu (i hocu) da im oprostim.

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[acaf]

Ako bih da cepidlacim: U predzadnjoj slici obratite paznju na stene iza 3 skeleta, izgledaju skoro identicno kao u Oblivionu :P

I zar ne postoji vec tema o Skyrimu, ako cu vec da cepidlacim

[Marti Misterija]

Bacena pod kljuc jer se u njoj mnogo pricalo o Oblivionu a gotovo nista o Skyrimu.

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[Bascelik]

Auuu, jedva cekam. Ovo ce biti igretina. Bas sada ponovo prelazim Morowind

Posle njega je na redu Oblivion, da se pripremim za TES 5.

PS
sad da procitam sta pise na ovim stranicama

[Marti Misterija]

Evo jos nekih informacija o Skyrim-u posto je originalna tema zakljucana.

Spoiler za Informacije o Skyrim-u:

On leveling:
Totally revamped, no more class selection at the start of the game, every skill you level contributes to your overall level. And each time you level you get extra health plus the ability to get either more health, magicka or stamina.
Each level also brings you perks. Cool abilities I guess like in Fallout 3.
Also, the leveling was moved from 1-25 or something like that to 1-50, but 50 is soft-capped, you just advance really slow after that.

On skills:
Mysticism is gone.
18 skills, down from 21 on Oblivion, and 27 on Morrowind.
Tries to accomodate players who want to specialize in a certain proffesion (like mage or thief), while at the same time giving room for players who like to do plenty of everything. They want to keep a special care so that this feels good, not prone to cheating and organic.

On the story and lore:
200 years after Oblivion. Set in Skyrim, a region north of the imperial city, where the Nords live.
The dragons are returning, as it was prophetized. You are gonna be trying to stop the wicked dragon god. You are a dragonborn, a dragon hunter. Your mentor is one of the last blade, voiced by some old dude from Shutter Island and Minority Report.
Also, there is a civil war, since the king is dead.
Enemies include were-yeti's, giant spider, dragons and other cool creatures.

On combat:
They want to make it more dynamic and tactical. You have to assign each hand with a function I think, either magic, 2 weapons, a weapon and a shield, etc.
You can also waste stamina by sprinting, allowing you to get access to tactical postitions.
Emphasis on really improving the combat this time around.
They are also putting care on how each weapon feel on your hand.

Other:
Third person view has been improved
5 massive cities, more variation in caves and underground stuff.

On quests:
Quests are much more dynamic now.
The quests are now more determined by how you build your chracter, individual actions and overall much more dynamic. Examples provided: If you are more of a magic user, some other mage may approach you who may not have had if you were just a melee character. Or if you killed some dude who owned a store that was gonna give you a quest, his sister would inherit the store, but she may resent you before giving you the quest. Also, if you drop a weapon in the street instead of selling it, it may just dissapear, some kid may get it and give it back to you, which would lead to a series of stuff, or some dudes may fight over who gets it.
Also, it said that the quests you are given would be modified by how you have played (I guess like scaling the quests). For example, the location of a rescue mission would be determined by which location you have visited (it will try to give you a dungeon you haven't been in) and I guess also giving you appropiate enemies to your level.

Recap of info courtesy of ShadowPampers

I can add that there is an option for no HUD.


On Conversations:
Conversations aren't done in a zoomed in static shot anymore.
Start a conversation with some and they will act like someone would in real life, looking at you occasionally and walking around a bit and also continue doing a task if they were doing one while talking.

On Weapon smithing:
Go to a forge and carve a new weapon out of red hot metal.
Informacije o Skyrim-u.

[vukodav]

Marti Misterija kaže:

Evo jos nekih informacija o Skyrim-u posto je originalna tema zakljucana.

Spoiler za Informacije o Skyrim-u:

On leveling:
Totally revamped, no more class selection at the start of the game, every skill you level contributes to your overall level. And each time you level you get extra health plus the ability to get either more health, magicka or stamina.
Each level also brings you perks. Cool abilities I guess like in Fallout 3.
Also, the leveling was moved from 1-25 or something like that to 1-50, but 50 is soft-capped, you just advance really slow after that.

On skills:
Mysticism is gone.
18 skills, down from 21 on Oblivion, and 27 on Morrowind.
Tries to accomodate players who want to specialize in a certain proffesion (like mage or thief), while at the same time giving room for players who like to do plenty of everything. They want to keep a special care so that this feels good, not prone to cheating and organic.

On the story and lore:
200 years after Oblivion. Set in Skyrim, a region north of the imperial city, where the Nords live.
The dragons are returning, as it was prophetized. You are gonna be trying to stop the wicked dragon god. You are a dragonborn, a dragon hunter. Your mentor is one of the last blade, voiced by some old dude from Shutter Island and Minority Report.
Also, there is a civil war, since the king is dead.
Enemies include were-yeti's, giant spider, dragons and other cool creatures.

On combat:
They want to make it more dynamic and tactical. You have to assign each hand with a function I think, either magic, 2 weapons, a weapon and a shield, etc.
You can also waste stamina by sprinting, allowing you to get access to tactical postitions.
Emphasis on really improving the combat this time around.
They are also putting care on how each weapon feel on your hand.

Other:
Third person view has been improved
5 massive cities, more variation in caves and underground stuff.

On quests:
Quests are much more dynamic now.
The quests are now more determined by how you build your chracter, individual actions and overall much more dynamic. Examples provided: If you are more of a magic user, some other mage may approach you who may not have had if you were just a melee character. Or if you killed some dude who owned a store that was gonna give you a quest, his sister would inherit the store, but she may resent you before giving you the quest. Also, if you drop a weapon in the street instead of selling it, it may just dissapear, some kid may get it and give it back to you, which would lead to a series of stuff, or some dudes may fight over who gets it.
Also, it said that the quests you are given would be modified by how you have played (I guess like scaling the quests). For example, the location of a rescue mission would be determined by which location you have visited (it will try to give you a dungeon you haven't been in) and I guess also giving you appropiate enemies to your level.

Recap of info courtesy of ShadowPampers

I can add that there is an option for no HUD.


On Conversations:
Conversations aren't done in a zoomed in static shot anymore.
Start a conversation with some and they will act like someone would in real life, looking at you occasionally and walking around a bit and also continue doing a task if they were doing one while talking.

On Weapon smithing:
Go to a forge and carve a new weapon out of red hot metal.
Informacije o Skyrim-u.

Gothic rip-off, anyone?
I samo se nadam da ce gradove napraviti zivljim i uverljivijim, ne one celine potpuno odsecene od ostatka sveta.

[Exalted]

Skyrim izgleda epski, a šta drugo i očekivati od Bethesde. Sudeći po skenovima Skyrim imati do sada najbolju grafiku viđenu u jednom RPG-u. Konačno su unapredili pogled iz trećeg lica, izgleda da će Skyrim moći bez problema da se igra na taj način. Onaj Radiant story sistem deluje fantastično, ako ga implementiraju u igru kako treba (a pošto je to Bethesda u to ne treba sumnjati ) igra će i bez modova imati ogroman replayability. Sve u svemu mislim da će ovo biti GOTY za 2011-tu.

Bilo bi dobro da moderatori otključaju temu za Skyrim i premeste sve postove koji se tiču skenova tamo.

[Bascelik]

"Bilo bi dobro da moderatori otključaju temu za Skyrim i premeste sve postove koji se tiču skenova tamo."
- slazem se Da mozemo tamo da diskutujemo o igri ,i da ljudi postavljaju nove informacije,koje ce verovatno stici uskoro.